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- 01-07-2002 09:17  
Ik ben een grote fan van onze eigen Henk Wijngaard, en dus lijkt het mij een leuk idee om Henk eens een mailtje te sturen! Ik bedoel, wie kent nou niet zijn superhits "Met de vlam in de pijp", "Teun Tussengas", "Sophie"?
Dus waarom laten wij, als DGE, niet eens wat van ons horen? Zullen we hem vragen of hij wil komen optreden op het B&E feest? Dat zal pas leuk zijn!
Laten we hem massaal gaan mailen, of laten we deze discussie voortzetten in het gastenboek van Henk http://www.henkwijngaard.nl!

Mail Henk! mailto:henkwijngaard@home.nl

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Hoe kom ik hier nou weer op? Oja, ik was op de site van die **** sukkel van een **** Henk Wijngaard....
No name
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- 01-07-2002 12:25  
belachelijk idee
Bjørn
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- 01-07-2002 13:02  
Ik ben tegen.
No name
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- 01-07-2002 13:12  
ik dus ook
Laurens
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- 01-07-2002 14:03  
Tjonge, er zijn hier geen echte Henk fans. Als Edwin hier was, dan zou hij het wel met me eens zijn!

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Stelletje eikels.
Dr. Ramon
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- 01-07-2002 15:56  
Mijn mening wist je al, ik sluit me dus aan bij Scylla en Bjørn voor alle duidelijkheid.
Laurens
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- 01-07-2002 15:58  
Mietje, meeloper!

Tss, durf voor je mening uit te komen! Jij bent ook Ron fan, alleen durf je het nooit te zeggen!
No name
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- 01-07-2002 16:34  
Ron durft er zelf ook niet voor uit te komen vrees ik voor hem
Laurens
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- 01-07-2002 16:36  
Wat weet jij nou van Ron Brandsteder? Alleen Edwin en ik zijn echte fans. En Ramon ook een beetje, maar hij durft er niet voor uit te komen.

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Tokkie-die-tok
No name
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- 01-07-2002 16:39  
Gelukkig inderdaad niet veel. Maar DAT wel.
Dr. Ramon
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- 01-07-2002 16:45  
Ik ben GEEN fan van Ron. Ik veracht Ron, en zijn fans. Ik zie Ron als een Gouden Emmer: Louter bedoeld om over te kotsen.
Volgens mij helpt glashard ontkennen ook niet echt... Maar goed, ik verkondig niets dan de waarheid. Daar heb ik immers in vorige posts al voor gepleit.

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En kukelekukelekuuu. En dit ken ik alleen omdat ik de Laurens en Edwin versie ken.
Laurens
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- 01-07-2002 16:50  
(8) Op een mooie camping,
vlak bij Barneveld,
daar had mijn tante Klaatje,
een caravan besteld.

Ze moest eens op vakantie,
ze moest er tussen uit,
maar 's nacht om half twaalf,
wat was dat voor een geluid?

Vanuit het kippenhok
klonk van je tokkie-de-tokkie-detok
en van je kukkelekukeleku
en van je tokkiedetokkiedetok!

De hele nacht maar door
en van je kukkelekukeleku
en van je tokkiedetokkiedetok! (8)
No name
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- 02-07-2002 09:17  
Eindelijk een liedje dat je snapt, DLL?

een verademing zeker?
Laurens
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- 02-07-2002 10:47  
(8) Wat een dag,
duizend keer vandaag,
spreekt mijn hand heel traag,
weer mijn eigen naam.
Op een prent
van een vent
met een lach
en een oogopslag
die ik heel goed ken.

Maar wie voelt met mij mee
dat mijn wereld meer is
dan alleen die quiz?
Ik moet niet zeuren
Het is het mooiste leven dat er is.

Fenomeen
dat gevoel
je spijt
en je kwetsbaarheid
die zijn van iedereen.
Is het echt
of een vreemd gevecht
tussen ijdelheid droom en werkelijkheid?

Ik raak in de war
wie is die man?
Die treffende gelijkenis?

Je mag niet zeuren
het is het mooiste leven dat er is!

Als je alles had geweten
Was je dan zo ver gegaan?

En had je hier dan ook gezeten?
Je had het toch weer zo gedaan.

Maar dan thuis
waar de warmte wacht
iemand eerlijk lacht
ik hem aan jou gedacht

Waar de held
zich van boven meldt
door een zwoele zoen
de kleinde kampioen.

Als daar een sprookjes boek
van de stoel
de ster
uit beeld verdwenen is
dan begint alles
het mooiste leven dat er is

dan pas
het gewoonsteleven dat er is. (8)

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Ron & Ivo
Dr. Ramon
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- 02-07-2002 11:51  
Aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrgggggggghh!!!!!!!

Weg met die tekst! Dit kan niet! Gatverdegatverdegatverdegatver. Ik stel voor dat Laurens hiervoor honderd punten aftrek krijgt, op zijn berichtenteller. Dit kan gewoon niet!
Laurens
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- 02-07-2002 12:07  
(8) Lieve Bella Beer
wil nooit een ander meer
jij bent de vrouw waar ik altijd op bouw.

Lieve Bella Beer
fijne knuffelbeer
Ik blijf je trouw
want ik hou zoveel van jou.

ik voel me zo fijn
sinds wij samen zijn
jij bent degeen
die mijn hartje verwarmt

Jij bent een schat
je druk me haast plat
ik kom niet meer bij als jij me omarmd

Lieve Bella Beer
wil nooit een ander meer
ben zo onzeker zonder jou aan mijn zij

Lieve Bella Beer
vraag het je nog een keer
beloof me toch Bella
blijf altijd bij mij.

Grijp je je kans
als ik met je dans
neem je natuurlijk de leiding meteen

En met finesse en heel veel souplesse
wals je weer fijntjes over mijn teen

Lieve Bella Beer
wil nooit een ander meer
jij bent de vrouw waar ik altijd op bouw.

Lieve Bella Beer
fijne knuffelbeer
Ik blijf je trouw
want ik hou zoveel van jou.

Jij bent niet blond
maar wel heel mooi rond
jij bent niet mager en ook niet heel slank

En zit je thuis
steeds voor de buis
vul je in je eentje een 2 zits bank

Lieve Bella Beer
wil nooit een ander meer
ben zo onzeker zonder jou aan mijn zij

Lieve Bella Beer
vraag het je nog een keer
beloof me toch Bella
blijf altijd bij mij. (8)

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Ron - Lieve Bella Beer.

Zou zijn er nog meer aanvragen?
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 02-07-2002 12:39  
Een man kent niet veel rust
hij is gauw afgeleid
hij heeft het jagersbloed nog in de aadren
hij gunt zichzelf geen tijd
het zoeken wordt een must
en zoveel engeltjes om te benaadren
maar toen zag ik jou
mijn hemel wat een vrouw!
ik wil je alles geven!
blijf bij me heel mijn leven!

Engelen bestaan niet
maar vrouwen zoals jij
die beheersen heel mijn leven
en die passen echt bij mij
ik heb vaak in gedachten
hun vleugeltjes gestreeld
maar dat waren saaie nachten
terwijl een vrouw zoals jij
me nog nooit 1 minuut heeft verveeld!
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 02-07-2002 12:41  
Ik hoop dat het nooit ochtend wordt
kon ik de nacht maar op de ruiten lijmen
want anders duurt ie veels te kort
kruip maar lekker heel dicht bij me
de maan schijnt door het dakraam heen
buiten is het al gaan vriezen
trek de dekens om ons heen
nooit wil ik je meer verliezen
jou alleen....
Dr. Ramon
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- 02-07-2002 14:01  
Aaah! Edwin, hoe kun je?!
Laurens
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- 02-07-2002 14:07  
(8) Beste jongens
lieve meiden
het is alweer de hoogste tijd
Maar een ding nog
en dat moet je me beloven:
rij voorzichtig en wel thuis.

ik wil je graag weer terug zien
dus maak het niet te bond
doe voorzichtig
doe kalm aan
en blijf gezond!
(8)
Dr. Ramon
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- 02-07-2002 14:07  
Toe nou... :'-( :'-(

Moet dit nou?
Laurens
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- 02-07-2002 14:18  
Ja! En hier komt er nog eentje! Speciaaaaaal voor Ramon!

(8) Als ik die klanken hoor
melangoliek
beleef ik alles weer
voel jalouzie
ik proef de warmte van verleden tijd
dan besef ik weer
ik ben je kwijt.

Die nacht heel onverwacht
verlaten strand
daar vroeg ik voor het eerst
geef mij je hand.
Het was een mooi begin
een mooi decor
dat is illusie nu
want ik verloor.

Dan komen vrienden vragen
blijf je overeind?
Het is de vraag
of dat gevoel nog ooit verdwijnt
de kracht van vriendschap
wordt je in die tijd geleerd
ik kan nog hopen
dat je mij ooit accepteerd.

Jij sneed de terug weg af
heel rigoreus
geen hard verwijd van mij
je had geen keus
echtheid van vuur en vlam
je was briljant
maar koos voor zekerheid
ik was riskant.

Nu dringt het tot me door
dat ik verloor. (8)

---
Ron -- ik verloor.
Dr. Ramon
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- 02-07-2002 14:22  
- reutel -

zoveel foute en slechte muziek kan ik niet aan... ik sterf
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 02-07-2002 22:19  
Laurens, je valt me tegen....

Ron en Laurens hebben All by myself opgenomen... NIET Ik verloor...
Laurens
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- 03-07-2002 09:41  
Zie je wel! Toch wel! Ik zat al te twijfelen!
nou het spijt mij, ik wist het gewoon even niet meer.

Ik zal het even veranderen.
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 05-07-2002 21:36  
Weer een mooie Ron-tekst. Ron wou eens naar de hoeren en toen belde zijn vrouw boos op. Toen heeft Ron deze tekst geschreven:

't is nu te laat
je had eerder moeten zeggen dat je van me houdt
't is nu te laat
de koffers zijn gepakt, ze wacht al bij de deur
't is nu te laat
waarom bel je op het verkeerde moment zoals altijd
't is nu te laat
je weet toch, ik wil je niet kwijt

waarom laat je me niet gaan?
je bent jaloers maar niet alleen
ik weet heus wel waar je bent
en ook met wie

van ons tweeen ben jij de sterkste
heb meelij met me deze keer
't is nu te laat
geloof me nou, als je me roept kom ik weer
je had eerder moeten zeggen dat je van me houdt
't is nu te laat
de koffers zijn gepakt, ze wacht al bij de deur
't is nu te laat
waarom bel je op het verkeerde moment zoals altijd
't is nu te laat
je weet toch, ik wil je niet kwijt

waarom huil je nou?
je meent het niet
ik ken je toch
laat me nou gaan deze ene keer
want als je me roept dan kom ik weer

Ron -- All By Myself (met Laurens van Rooyen)
Laurens
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- 05-07-2002 22:15  
<snif> Wat een mooie text... Het ontroerd mij helemaal. Wat is het ook een wereld artiest, onze Ron.
Dr. Ramon
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- 06-07-2002 10:32  
Hoe wist zijn vrouw dat Ron naar de hoeren wilde? Had ze ook het telefoonnummer van die prostituée?

Net als DLL-Q laat ik een traan. Echter niet door ontroering, maar door ontzetting en ontreddering. De meest gepaste reacties bij het waarnemen van teksten van Ron-liedjes, of eigenlijk alles wat ook maar met Ron te maken heeft.
Laurens
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- 06-07-2002 13:28  
Ron Rulez(c). Maar ja, blijkbaar zijn Edwin en ik alleen van deze mening. Wij hebben op 3 meter van Ron gezeten, en op zijn Laat Ze Maar Lachen stoel gezeten! Hij was nog helemaal warm van onze held :S. Maar ja, ik dwaal af....
Dr. Ramon
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- 06-07-2002 21:06  
Dergelijke details over warme stoelen blijf ik liever bespaard. Brrrr....

Dat alleen Edwin en jij die mening deelden, was natuurlijk al langer bekend. Ik ga er nog steeds van uit dat het ergens niet goed gaat in jullie hersenpan. Dat een hersenkwab verdraaid is ofzo.
Laurens
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- 07-07-2002 10:10  
Nou dan weet ik het goed gemaakt: dan doe jij daar je afstudeer onderzoek naar! "The Quest for Ron Rittus" ofzo!

Nou wat zeg je er van?
Dr. Ramon
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- 07-07-2002 10:19  
Ik denk dat ik liever verre blijf van dingen die met Ron te maken hebben. Onderzoek hiernaar zou me dwingen de manifestaties van deze aandoening te bestuderen. Dat zou dus betekenen dat ik naar Ron-"muziek" enzo zou moeten luisteren.
Laurens
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- 07-07-2002 11:14  
Nou, ik denk dat het goed is voor je algemene ontwikkeling.
Dr. Ramon
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- 07-07-2002 12:53  
Nee, die mening deel ik niet. Iedereen zou beschermd moeten worden tegen blootstelling aan Ron/-'muziek'. Per slot van rekening willen we die hersenaandoeningen zoveel mogelijk voorkomen.
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 14-07-2002 17:21  
Ron Rulezzzz!
Dr. Ramon
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- 14-07-2002 21:05  
Helaas, Edwin is al blootgesteld aan te grote doses Ron. De schade aan zijn hersenen is evident uit zijn bericht - hij kan louter nog twee woorden uitbrengen, waarvan één nog verkeerd gespeld is ook: 'Rulezzzz' moet natuurlijk met één S geschreven worden, en met een kleine letter R beginnen: 'rules'. En verder zou je dan het woord 'rules' als geheel als verkeerd gespeld kunnen beschouwen, omdat het zinnetje natuurlijk moet zijn: 'Ron sucks'.
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 15-07-2002 19:12  
Ramon, als je denkt dat het mijn bedoeling was een grammaticaal correcte zin op te schrijven dan heb je het mis. Zo zou Ron het ook niet gewild hebben (maar daar snap jij als Ron hater toch niks van). Daarom heb ik mij fonetisch uitgedrukt. Vandaar.
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 15-07-2002 19:25  
De songtekst van Je Bent Niet Alleen! Veel plezier ermee Ramon!


Bel, we gaan nu slapen hoor meid
het is nou wel mooi geweest
vind je ook niet?
de maan schijnt ook al, de sterretjes
zie je ze?
je hoeft nou niet meer te tobben hoor
geen probleempjes meer, ben je gek
zet je zorgen even maar helemaal aan de kant
ik ga het licht nu uitdoen
en ik geef je nog een zoen, op je snuit
de zon die is ook al ondergegaan
we hebben het fijn gehad he Bel?
ga nu maar lekker dromen schat
je bent de allerliefste beer van Nederland

ik weet wel Bel, je liefste wens
is te kunnen te praten net als mens
ik heb wel in de gaten
dat je je soms eenzaam voelt
je wilt me zoveel zeggen, alles tegelijk
en als ik je dan in je ogen kijk
dan hoef je echt niets te zeggen Bel
ik begrijp alles wel
echt alles wat je bedoelt

o, wat zou jij moe zijn he Bel!
doe maar lekker je oogjes toe schat
kijk, het is natuurlijk zo dat een berenbrein ook z'n grenzen heeft
ja, en het valt natuurlijk helemaal niet mee als je in een wereld moet leven waar alleen mensen zijn
dat is toch ook aanpassen
en alles wat je doet dat gaat niet altijd goed
en als je soms een beetje verbaasd om je heen kijkt
ja, dat begrijp ik toch ook wel schat
nou, ga nu maar lekker slapen
iedereen vindt het fijn om bij je te zijn
je bent niet alleen

je wilt me zoveel zeggen, alles tegelijk
en als ik je dan in je ogen kijk
dan hoef je echt niets te zeggen Bel
ik begrijp alles wel
echt alles wat je bedoelt

mmmmm, mmmmm, mmmmm, mmmm

maar het valt niet mee voor een beer zo klein
in een wereld van alleen maar mensen
maar iedereen vindt het fijn om bij je zijn
ga nu maar slapen, je bent niet alleen

welterusten Bel (smak)
Dr. Ramon
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- 15-07-2002 20:07  
Edwin (en uiteraard ook Laurens), jullie zijn de spreekwoordelijke nagels aan mijn doodskist. Over doodskisten gesproken, heeft iemand toevallig nog gekeken naar de live opgraving van de doodskist van/met Pim (SBS6, 15-7-'02 19:00)? Ik niet in ieder geval.
No name
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- 16-07-2002 18:56  
Nee niet gekeken.... maar ik ga vast nog een keer naar Italie bij zijn graf kijken....

hey DLL is daar!?!?! wat wil hij? stiekem toch voor pim??
Dr. Ramon
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- 16-07-2002 20:40  
Verrek zeg! Je legt hier een niet vermoede link tussen DLL's vakantieplaats en Pim! Tjonge! Inderdaad is het wel heel toevallig dat hij in Noord-Italië op vakantie is, net rond deze tijd! Provesano (waar PF begraven wordt) lag toch tenminste ook in Noord-Italië?
Chapeau voor dit speurwerk, Scylla! Hier moeten we DLL als hij terug of online komt maar eens grondig over aan de tand voelen!
No name
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- 17-07-2002 10:36  
ja dat was in het noorden ja... DLL is erbij!!! betrapt!
Laurens
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- 19-07-2002 16:33  
Ik zit niet helemaal in het Noorden, maar als jullie even het adresje geven van het grafje, dan zal ik er even overheen gaan pissen. Nu zit ik nog bij Florence, maar morgen ga ik richting Rimini, dus al Pim daar ligt, ga ik op bedevaart!
No name
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- 19-07-2002 20:25  
Als je je maar waardig gedraagrt als je daar in de buurt bent.

Beetje onsmakelijk dat je erover heen gaat pissen, je zou je moeten schamen als je zulke dingen zegt... maar ja... dat zul je zelf ook wel weten.
Georg
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- 19-07-2002 21:40  
Hahaha, grappig.
No name
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- 19-07-2002 22:05  
Ik zeg toch ook niet dat ik op het graf van Ron Brandstapel ga pissen??
Dr. Ramon
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- 19-07-2002 22:06  
Nee zeg, maar die is ook nog lang niet dood. Tenminste, ik ga ervan uit dat hij nog lang in leven blijft. Tenzij iemand me even het telefoonnummer van Volkert geeft... ;-)
No name
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- 19-07-2002 23:05  
Ik heb niets tegen ron Brandstapel.... maar ik gebruikte het als voorbeeld...
Dr. Ramon
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- 19-07-2002 23:29  
Ah, vandaar. Nou ja, ik heb verder wel wat tegen R*n, maar pissen over iemands graf getuigt wel van elk gebrek aan respect. Dat zou ik dus ook nooit doen.
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- 20-07-2002 00:42  
Dit citaat had ik geleend van DLL en aangepast naar eigen wensen.
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 20-07-2002 13:45  
Pissen op Ron zijn graf! Verschrikkelijk... Gelukkig dat Ron onsterfelijk is. Hij heeft immers als twee ernstige auto ongelukken en tig afleveringen van Moppentoppers overleeft.

Ron kan dus nog heel wat albums maken!
Georg
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- 21-07-2002 11:55  
Is Ron onsterfelijk? Godzijdank ben ik sterfelijk!
Dr. Ramon
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- 21-07-2002 12:54  
Zeg dat wel! Niemand wil immers de/een eeuwigheid doorbrengen met Ron!
Bjørn
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- 23-07-2002 21:33  
There can be only one...
Dr. Ramon
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- 23-07-2002 21:54  
De Foot Locker reclame? Hoe verhoudt zich dit met een eeuwigheid met Ron?
Bjørn
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- 25-07-2002 02:42  
Ik maakte een link naar de film Highlander, waar een aantal personen onsterfelijk zijn die elkaars hoofd moeten afhakken omdat er can be only one.
Dr. Ramon
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- 25-07-2002 14:20  
Aha. Dat wist ik niet. Ik heb ook verder nooit naar een Highlander film gekeken, alleen af en toe eens naar de TV-serie. In reclame voor Foot Locker werd de kreet 'There can be only one' ook gebruikt.
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 25-07-2002 18:04  
Ik heb de Highlander 1 film op DVD. The Immortal Edition (met DTS sound!) van Anchor Bay entertainment om precies te zijn.
Dr. Ramon
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- 25-07-2002 18:29  
Aha! Tjonge.

Heb je trouwens je Pi-shirt al van Georg gekregen?
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 25-07-2002 21:35  
Ja! Ziet er mooi uit hoor! Eindelijk mijn bijna unieke Pi-shirt...
Dr. Ramon
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- 25-07-2002 22:52  
Fijn! En je Pi-shirt is niet alleen bijna uniek, hij is zelfs helemaal uniek! Door verschillende strijktechnieken is geen enkel shirt hetzelfde. Is dat niet geweldig?
Overigens presenteer ik je bij deze ook de nota:
€ 1,50 - heat transfer sheet
€ 7,39 - wit T-shirt
+---------
€ 8,89

Graag binnen 30 dagen over te maken op (Postbank) rekening 7626750 t.n.v. R.B. van Tol te Enschede. Contant geld wordt ook geaccepteerd. Pinnen kan helaas nog niet: het apparaatje om de magneetstrippen en pincodes stiekem te kopiëren kon nog niet worden geleverd door de fabrikant wegens te veel aanvragen.
Sascha
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- 26-07-2002 20:00  
En de inkt is gratis... =)
Dr. Ramon
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- 26-07-2002 20:53  
Ja, ik ben er in alle brutaliteit maar even vanuit gegaan dat je de inkt voor Edwin's Pi-shirt ook gratis verstrekte. Duizendmaal excuses voor deze brutaliteit, ik zal het indien het ongepast blijkt te zijn nooit meer doen, maar als het echt nodig is natuurlijk wel.
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 26-07-2002 21:35  
Nou, ik zal mijn best doen het op tijd over te maken. Voordat ik hopelijk een deurwaarder aan de deur krijg!
Dr. Ramon
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- 27-07-2002 00:01  
Een deurwaarder? Dat zal er wel niet inzitten. Die zal ik ook wel weer moeten inhuren. En dan kost dat meer dan dat dat Pi-shirt oplevert. Dus dan zou ik het Pi-shirt weer duurder moeten maken. En dan... ach, wat zit ik toch weer te emmeren? Waarom zou ik sowieso een deurwaarder op een goede vriend afsturen?
Georg
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- 27-07-2002 00:20  
Ik bied mij vrijwillig aan als deurwaarder.
Dr. Ramon
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- 27-07-2002 00:26  
Oh! Wat leuk zeg! Vrijwillig, betekent dat dat je het gratis doet? Ik stel je aanbieding natuurlijk zeer op prijs, maar ik wil die arme Edwin natuurlijk ook weer niet de schrik op het lijf jagen. Niet dat ik daarmee bedoel dat jij er nu zeer afschrikwekkend uitziet ofzo - mijn excuses als je het zo interpreteerde - en Edwin kent jou verder ook wel, dus zul je hem niet zo gauw de schrik op het lijf jagen. Maar wat ik bedoelde was, dat ik Edwin niet een deurwaarder aan wil doen. Hij heeft ook beloofd zijn best te doen het op tijd over te maken, en daar houd ik hem aan. Uiteraard staat zijn belofte hier wel op DGE genoteerd, zodat ik hem daar altijd aan kan houden, mocht hij het geld na een bepaalde periode - laten we zeggen een jaartje of 10 - nog steeds niet hebben overgemaakt.
No name
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- 27-07-2002 09:54  
ik bied mij vrijwillig aan als advocaat van dhr. Edwin
Dr. Ramon
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- 27-07-2002 14:36  
Waarom lijkt men hier op DGE aan te sturen op een harde confrontatie namens Edwin en mij? Ik word hier een beetje teleurgesteld van. Bovendien hebben Edwin en ik het tot nu toe financieel altijd goed met elkaar kunnen vinden, geen wolkje aan de lucht. Ik stel dus ook maar voor dat men zijn rechtsbijstandspraktijken ergens anders uitoefent, en geen hetze tussen Edwin en mij uitlokt. Zo. Ik heb gezegd. Of geschreven. Of beter nog: Getypt.
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 28-07-2002 11:33  
Tsja, inderdaad Ramon! Ze zitten een beetje te stoken tussen ons. Maar als ik even Andre van Duin en Willeke Alberti mag citeren:

"Vrienden blijven doen we altijd
want je weet toch, dat echte vriendschap niet slijt"
Dr. Ramon
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- 28-07-2002 11:41  
Gelukkig dat jij en André en Willeke er ook zo over denken! Dit geeft ze maar mooi even het nakijken. Die André en Willeke toch! Is er ook maar één gevoel dat ze niet prachtig kunnen vertolken in een wonderschoon levenslied?
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 28-07-2002 11:44  
Meen je dit echt? Zou je nu eindelijk op het rechte pad van de gezellige Hollandse levensliederen gekomen zijn?
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- 28-07-2002 11:47  
Zou ik dit echt menen? Wat denk je zelf? Ik denk dat het laatste deel van mijn bericht maar op één manier geïnterpreteerd kan worden, en dat is op de sarcastische manier. Het pad van de gezellige Hollandse levensliederen is natuurlijk allesbehalve recht. Het slingert alle kanten op en bevat allemaal zijpaden naar B-artiesten die hun best doen de slechtste muziek voort te brengen die het daglicht niet mag aanschouwen. Wat ik hier verder mee wil zeggen weet ik ook niet eigenlijk.
Georg
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- 28-07-2002 12:34  
Daar ben ik het wel mee eens eigenlijk. Een rasechte hedonist als jij Edwin zou er toch verstandig aan doen wat minder naar deze kwellende muziek te luisteren, behalve naar Herman van Veen uiteraard. Heb jij zijn geniale theater in vier taferelen `Lune' al uit? Dat moet je toch zeker wel een uur gekost hebben.
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- 28-07-2002 12:43  
Fijn dat je het met me eens bent, Georg.
Tjonge, is Edwin een echte hedonist? Dat had ik nu niet echt achter hem gezocht. Ik dacht eerder dat hij andere mensen juist liet genieten van zijn entertainende kunsten, o.a. als muziekmaker.
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- 28-07-2002 13:09  
Ik zie mezelf inderdaad niet echt als een hedonist (hoewel ik daar wel een prachtige presentatie over gehouden heb bij godsdienst) maar meer als een socialist/seculiere humanist of iets in die richting... Ik moet toegeven dat ik natuurlijk wel hedonistische trekjes heb, maar ja, wie niet?
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- 28-07-2002 13:12  
Aha! Een socialist/seculiere humanist. Het zegt me niet veel eigenlijk. Kun je het in wat gewonere mensentaal zeggen?
Ik denk dat het in de aard van mensen zit om hedonistisch te zijn. Per slot van rekening blijven mensen roken ondanks dat ze weten dat het slecht is voor de gezondheid, om maar eens even een uitgekauwd voorbeeld te geven.
Bjørn
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- 28-07-2002 14:31  
Zou je mij ook even willen noemen als je het gaat hebben over ONZE prachtige presentatie, Edwin? De presentatie was natuurlijk niks geworden als niet Alan Been, Jos Ruitenbeek en ik die geweldige sketches hadden uitgevoerd en na afloop uit volle borst het Hedenisten lied hadden meegezongen (behalve Jos dan, die de radio moest 'bedienen'). Zeg nou zelf.
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- 28-07-2002 16:03  
Aha! Dus het was een presentatie van Epic? Wat interessant zeg! Wat voor sketches hebben jullie opgevoerd, als ik vragen mag? Nu wordt ook meteen de historische context van het Hedonistenlied duidelijk.
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- 28-07-2002 18:45  
Okee, het was ONZE prachtige presentatie Bjorn. Die sketches waren niet zo heel bijzonder hoor hoewel Bjorn en Alan het geweldig speelden!
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- 28-07-2002 21:53  
Oh? Wat speelden jullie dan? Ik wil het wel heel graag weten nu. Er zijn zeker geen video-opnamen van?
Georg
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- 28-07-2002 22:09  
Nee, helaas. Ik kan er me vaag iets van herinneren. Het heeft blijkbaar geen onuitwisbare indruk achter gelaten.
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- 28-07-2002 22:11  
Buitengewoon jammer zeg. Nou ja, daar valt niets meer aan te doen. Kan Edwin ook geen tipje van de sluier oplichten? Of Bjørn?
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- 29-07-2002 19:30  
Okee, omdat jullie er zo om vragen, hier is een fragment uit de sketch (S=Alan, B=Bjorn):

"S: Maar waarom staat er zo’n raar bordje op de gevel?: “Vreemdeling, het is hier goed te wezen, hier is genot het hoogste goed.â€
E: Daar heb ik zo mijn redenen voor.
S: Heb je soms een harem in je huis met verleidelijke Griekse vrouwen?
E: Nee, maar het verleidelijke zul je gauw genoeg ondervinden. Laten we naar binnen gaan.

E en S lopen de klas uit en komen gelijk weer binnen. S is erg boos.

E: Maar je mag hier blijven!
S: Ach, stomme, ouwe, grijze filosoof van niks. Wat moet ik daar! Je hebt alleen maar gerstebrood en wat water in dat huis van je. Ik krijg dat smerige gerstebrood mijn strot niet door. Ik wil enorme feesttafels met de heerlijkste gerechten. En ik heb daar ook geen geile wijven gezien.
E: Hier moet je de honger niet groter maken….
S: En hou die betweterige, filosofische, kalenderwijsheden voor je, aub!
E: Sorry."
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 29-07-2002 19:34  
Hou bij het lezen hiervan in gedachten dat Alan noch Bjorn de tekst uit het hoofd geleerd hebben en van een papier voorlezen.
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- 29-07-2002 20:59  
Wauw! Fantastisch! Hahaha! Dat moet een top voorstelling zijn geweest. Wie heeft de tekst geschreven? Jij, Edwin?
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- 29-07-2002 21:46  
Yep. En als ik het teruglees vind ik het nog best grappig ook!
Frode
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- 30-07-2002 01:19  
Het klinkt inderdaad best grappig, vooral als ik me Bjørn voor de klas voorstel met een papiertje in zijn hand... en Allan natuurlijk. ; p
Bjørn
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- 30-07-2002 22:30  
We hebben het zo goed mogelijk geprobeerd voor te bereiden en de klas, inclusief Borger, onze godsdienst leraar,, was er stil van. Toen Borger later onze eerste Epic CD kreeg aangerijkt als afscheidskado omdat hij naar Kameroen vertrok (met afscheidsnummer "Kameroen" op melodie van "Waterloo"), was hij nog veel stiller.

Dit was het begin van het succes van Epic. De CD verkocht goed, vooral bij de leraren. Ongeveer een jaar later behaalde Epic een soortgelijk succes, toen de tweede CD tijdens een grootschalige releaseparty uitgedeeld werd aan de menigte.

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Delen uit deze vertelling zijn geromantiseerd om een diepere indruk achter te laten bij de lezer.
Dr. Ramon
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- 30-07-2002 22:51  
Tjonge! Nou, wat een schitterend epos. Ik ben er diep van onder ingedrukt. Om maar eens even een uitdrukking van mijn muziekleraar op de middelbare school te gebruiken.
Frode
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- 31-07-2002 00:15  
Ik wordt er helemaal stil van... Niet dat ik normaal zoveel zeg tijdens het typen.
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- 31-07-2002 01:26  
Ha! Ha! Ha! Wat een geweldige grap. Ik moet er erg om lachen. Eenzelfde soort grap als die ik eerst maakte, en waar jij toen om moest lachen. Ofzo.

Wel, nu staan we quitte wat betreft de flauwe grappen zou ik zeggen.
Frode
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- 31-07-2002 03:07  
Nou... Die van jou was wel errig flauw, hoor. :)
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- 31-07-2002 09:10  
Tja, dat wordt moeilijk competeren natuurlijk...
Frode
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- 31-07-2002 19:26  
Eigenlijk was die van jou een beetje TE flauw.
Dr. Ramon
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- 01-08-2002 19:21  
Ja, dat is een vervelende eigenschap van me: Bijzonder flauwe 'grappen' maken. Je kunt het ook slechte grappen noemen. Of je barst er gewoon bij in huilen uit.
Maar ik zeg maar zo: Flauwer power!
Frode
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- 01-08-2002 23:25  
Hahaha, Flauwer... *zucht*... Die was best wel grappig.
Proud to be Fout blijft ook nogsteeds leuk.
Dr. Ramon
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- 03-08-2002 00:09  
Tja... je moet toch wat.
Inderdaad, 'Proud to be Fout' is ook nog steeds leuk. Maar iets minder toepasselijk in deze situatie.
Frode
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- 03-08-2002 02:33  
Daar heb je een punt.
Laurens
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- 03-08-2002 12:12  
Even over onze eiogen Henk Weingaard: ik ben trots om te zeggen dat in over de Brennerpas heb gereden, en me toen heel goed kon voorstellen waarom Henk deze pas bezong in "Met de vlam in de pijp"! Het was prachtig.
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 03-08-2002 13:55  
Wauw, dat kan ik me voorstellen! Heb je het nummer op de desbetreffende plaats nog gezongen?
Laurens
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- 03-08-2002 14:09  
Nee, ik heb wel aan het nummer gedacht.
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 03-08-2002 14:12  
Stilte is inderdaad soms toepasselijker dan geluid.
Georg
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- 03-08-2002 19:32  
Waar ligt dat eigenlijk, de Brennerpas?
Dr. Ramon
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- 03-08-2002 21:01  
Wat een geluk dat Laurens het nummer toch niet heeft gezongen. Ik weet niet of de wereld wel nog meer Henk W. klanken had aangekund. In dit geval ben ik het dus roerend met Edwin eens: Stilte was hier toepasselijker dan geluid. Lag de Brennerpas niet in Oostenrijk?
No name
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- 04-08-2002 01:28  
Tussen Italie en of zwitserland/oostenrijk ofzo toch?
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 04-08-2002 10:39  
Voor de liefhebbers:

Met de vlam in de pijp

Refr.
Met de vlam in de pijp, scheur ik door de Brennerpas,
met mijn "dertig tonnen diesel", ver van huis, maar in mijn sas.
Met de vlam in de pijp door eindeloze nacht.
En dan moet ik evendenken aan mijn vrouw die op me wacht.

'T is niet erg om hier te rijden, zoveel nachten hier van jou
want mijn wagen zal me brengen door de nevel en de kou.
Als ik thuis ben zul je zeggen: "blijf wat langer als het gaat".
En je weet ik zou graag willen, maar dat is iets wat niet bestaat.

Refr.

Even stop ik op een rustplaats, langs die eindeloze baan.
Hoeveel keer ik hier gestopt ben, Ja dat weet alleen de maan.
En de weekend dat ik thuis ben, zal voor ons het einde zijn.
Omdat ik zo vaak ver van huis ben, lijkt het leven een re-frein.

Refr.
Sascha
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- 04-08-2002 10:59  
Die tekst ziet er helemaal niet zo erg uit als ik had gedacht...
Dr. Ramon
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- 04-08-2002 11:21  
Ja, daar kan ook. In ieder geval ligt hij daar ergens ten zuidoosten van Nederland in een bergachtig gebied in mijn gedachten.
Sascha: kennelijk heb je het liedje dan nog nooit gehoord. Ik kan je niet aanraden om bovenstaande tekst op melodie mee te maken, tenminste: niet in een andere geestelijke staat dan de staat die 'coma' of eventueel de staat die 'buiten bewustzijn' wordt genoemd, wil je geen permanente hersenschade oplopen.
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 04-08-2002 12:03  
Sascha, jij hebt tenminste oog voor het prachtige oud-Hollandse levensliederen repertoire!
Sascha
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- 04-08-2002 21:50  
Heh, dank voor de waarschuwing en het compliment! Ik zal het maar bij mijn 'oog' houden en er verder niet naar luisteren.
No name
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- 04-08-2002 22:24  
Goedzo.... die kermiskankerherriemuziek dat is niets voor ons soort mensen.
Sascha
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- 04-08-2002 22:59  
Kermismuziek is wel leuk hoor...
Dr. Ramon
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- 05-08-2002 01:18  
Goed zo Sascha! Jij houdt tenminste rekening met je geestelijke gezondheid.
Hoewel ik me niet in dergelijke krachttermen wens uit te drukken, ben ik het toch zeker met de essentie van hetgeen Scylla beweert eens. En kermismuziek is niet echt geweldig verder, meestal. Doffe dreunen, veel te hard gespeeld, en vaak ook van verschrikkelijke artiesten (tenzij er hier fans zijn van de Venga Boys, Jody Bernal en andere wanartiesten)
Sascha
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- 05-08-2002 23:39  
Ach... Zolang men niet naar de kermis gaat om slechts over muziek te zeiken, denk ik dat mijn opmerking wel veilig geplaatst is...
Laurens
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- 06-08-2002 10:32  
Henk rulez. RunRulez(c), Jan Boezeroen is mijn held, en Rita Corita is een schatje. Heintje en Jantje zijn mijn beste vrienden en Fransje is cool.

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Euh.... :-S
Dr. Ramon
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- 06-08-2002 21:20  
Iets zegt mij dat je hier liever niet mee wordt geconfronteerd in de openbaarheid. Desalniettemin stellen we je uiting zeer op prijs, en komt dit bericht vast wel een keer van pas mocht er zich een noodzaak tot chantage voordoen.
Laurens
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- 07-08-2002 10:23  
(8) Bij mij valt echt niets meer te halen,
Je hebt me volledig uitgekleed
ik kan me gas niet eens betalen
Weet je wel hoe dat aan me vreet? (8)

Een geweldige hit van Jan!
Dr. Ramon
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- 08-08-2002 13:25  
Deze uiting stel ik minder op prijs eigenlijk. Bovendien kan ik me moeilijk voorstellen dat (jij nog weet dat) dit een hit was.
Laurens
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- 08-08-2002 20:10  
Nou, als het in "Voor alle fans" is, is het vast wel wat geweest.
Dr. Ramon
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- 08-08-2002 20:16  
Ik denk dat de oorspronkelijke titel van het programma oorspronkelijk was "Voor alle fans die ontsnapt zijn uit psychiatrische ziekenhuizen". Dit heeft men toen veranderd, omdat er anders geen hond meer naar zou kijken.

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Ik denk dat mijn mening omtrent "Voor alle fans" inmiddels wel duidelijk is
Laurens
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- 08-08-2002 20:22  
Nou, ik zou wel hebben gekeken.
Dr. Ramon
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- 08-08-2002 20:25  
Uiteraard. Hoewel je, voor zover ik weet, niet uit een psychiatrisch ziekenhuis bent ontsnapt. Mysterieus! Hmmm.... nou ja, wat is het leven zonder mysteries. Laten we dit maar gewoon een raadsel laten.
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 28-08-2005 12:33  
En kennen we deze nog?

Tachtig rode rozen voor oma lief
O die zou ik haar graag willen geven
Ik zou haar dan zeggen: "Omaatje lief
't Is voor uw verjaardag alstublieft"
Maar de centjes uit m'n spaarpot die zijn op
Aan patat met mayonaise en aan drop
Tachtig rode rozen voor oma lief
O wat moet ik morgen toch beginnen
Ik zou haar dan vragen: "Omaatje lief
Toe vergeef me nu toch alstublieft"

Ik wou mijn oma zo graag rozen geven
Want morgen wordt mijn oma tachtig jaar
Maar 'k snap niet waar de centjes zijn gebleven
Ik had toch haast een gulden bij elkaar

Tachtig rode rozen voor oma lief
O die zou ik haar graag willen geven
Ik zou haar dan zeggen: "Omaatje lief
't Is voor uw verjaardag alstublieft"
Maar de centjes uit mijn spaarpot die zijn op
Aan patat met mayonaise en aan drop
Tachtig rode rozen voor oma lief
O wat moet ik morgen toch beginnen
Ik zou haar dan zeggen: "Omaatje lief
Ik wou tachtig rozen halen
'k Had geen geld om te betalen
Toe vergeef me nu toch alstublieft"
Dr. Ramon
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- 28-08-2005 23:17  
Gisteren waren Imca Marina en een hoop andere foute artiesten in het Stadspark. Ben je wel wezen kijken, Edwin?
No name
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- 29-08-2005 17:49  
Ik ga niet in het donker het stadspark in! Weet je wat daar gebeurt?!
Frode
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- 30-08-2005 01:33  
Rituele slachtingen?
Heroine gespuit?
Erotische bijeenkomsten?
Spooktochten?
TV opnamen?
Roversbende moppendoos?
No name
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- 30-08-2005 07:56  
Erotische bijeenkomsten van zowel gelijkgeslachtigen als ongelijkgeslachtigen.
Dr. Ramon
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- 30-08-2005 10:41  
Ja, ik heb dat eerder gehoord inderdaad. Waarbij het de gelijkgeslachtigen om de ontmoetingsplek ging en de ongelijkslachtigen om de betaalde liefde.
Frode
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- 30-08-2005 18:17  
Epulora absque incommodi incolumis accredo est... amen.
Frode
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- 30-08-2005 18:20  
Epulora omnis homo hominis ame

Toch?
No name
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- 31-08-2005 17:51  
Aureus Situla is alive!!

(zal wel niet correct zijn)
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