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- 26-07-2002 21:38  
Voor degenen die het willen weten: het kind van Marit van Rossum is niet verwekt door ons aller Ron. Dit is bevestigd door de DNA-test. Ron doet het liever safe met goedkope hoertjes... Gelukkig maar!

Ron denkt er nu over om de roddelbladen verder aan te klagen... Zet hem op Ron!
Dr. Ramon
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- 27-07-2002 00:03  
Ik heb het gelezen! Jammer, jammer, jammer. Voor Marit. Kan ze geen geld vangen. En jammer voor ons, Ron-haters. Nu missen we een prachtkans om Ron verder de grond in te trappen. Waarom gaat Ron nu alweer de roddelbladen aanklagen? Dat had hij toch al gedaan? Met succes, overigens. Die arme roddelbladen. Net alsof zij niet hard moeten sappelen om brood op de plank te moeten krijgen. En dan komt daar even zo'n grote boze Ron die ze meteen maar weer uitknijpt, financieel gezien.
No name
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- 27-07-2002 09:57  
Weet je Ramon

jij heette ook bijna RON

als je ouders niet de letters a en m hadden ingevoegd!
Dr. Ramon
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- 27-07-2002 14:33  
Weet je Scylla

dat dit ook de reden is dat ik mij bij tijd en wijle 'Am' noem om die vermaledijde letters maar uit mijn naam te laten?
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 28-07-2002 11:36  
Ik ben vaak jaloers op Ramon omdat hij maar liefst drie letters van mijn idool in zijn naam heeft! Het liefste had ik natuurlijk Ron geheten. Misschien kan ik mijn naam nog veranderen?
Dr. Ramon
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- 28-07-2002 11:40  
Ik weet niet of ik er blij mee moet zijn dat je jaloers bent op mijn naam, ik ben er immers zelf niet zo blij mee nu blijkt dat er drie letters van jullie idool in naam zit. Je moet gewoon even naar een ambtenaar van de burgerlijke stand heen, en je naam laten veranderen. Het kost wel wat geloof ik, maar dan heb je ook wat. Als je dan naar die ambtenaar toegaat, dan ga ik gelijk met je mee. Dan kan ik die drie ergerlijke letters uit mijn naam laten halen. Wie weet krijgen we dan wel kwantumkorting!
No name
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- 28-07-2002 21:07  
Als je een meisje was geweest hadden we je "ma" kunnen noemen, maar "am" slaat nergens op!
Dr. Ramon
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- 28-07-2002 21:52  
What's in a name?
"Am", thát's in a name. Kijk maar: N-[A-M]-E. Am slaat dus wel degelijk ergens op. Op mij. Bovendien zegt ook een groot deel van de Engels sprekende bevolking dagelijks: "I am". Dit toont maar weer het belang van dat simpele woordje, dat toch een zo grote betekenis blijkt te hebben.
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- 28-07-2002 22:53  
Heb je ooit wel eens gehoord:

"I am am?"
Dr. Ramon
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- 28-07-2002 23:30  
Uiteraard had ik het dan niet over een dergelijke zinsconstructie. Waar ik meer op zinspeelde, was iets in de trant van de uitspraak van die befaamde Romeinse keizer: "I, Julius Caesar". Of was het Nero? Of nog een ander? Nou ja, ik heb mijn punt duidelijk gemaakt.
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- 29-07-2002 08:26  
Vind je?
Dr. Ramon
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- 29-07-2002 09:09  
Persoonlijk vind ik dat wel. Jij bent natuurlijk vrij om daar anders over te denken - we leven immers in een vrij land wat betreft meningsuitingen. Maar als je er iets niet duidelijk aan vindt, of je vindt iets anders, zeg dat dan.
No name
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- 29-07-2002 09:46  
Ik heb er een ander gevoel over.
Dr. Ramon
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- 29-07-2002 09:48  
Wat voor gevoel dan? Terwijl ik hier mijn best doe om alles duidelijk te maken laat jij alles maar een beetje in het midden hangen.
Sascha
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- 29-07-2002 19:45  
O god geen gevoelen...

Doe geen moeite met Scylla in discussie te treden, hij luistert toch niet.
Dr. Ramon
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- 29-07-2002 21:01  
Ah, okee... :-S

Overigens hoeft hij ook niet te luisteren, maar lezen... ;-)

---
hitte werkt helaas niet als zout: de 'humor' wordt er niet minder flauw van
Frode
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- 29-07-2002 21:53  
In mijn naam zitten ook twee letters uit de naam van deze Ron.

Wat een flauwe grap, maar wel leuk. ;^|)
Dr. Ramon
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- 29-07-2002 22:45  
Hoei... Ga je je nu Fde noemen, dan? Dat is wel een beetje lastig uit te spreken.

Dankje dat je hem leuk vond, maar eigenlijk is hij nog niet eens leuk ook.
Frode
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- 30-07-2002 01:03  
Dan maak ik er wel Fed of Def... Of DFE (De Feest Emmer).

Ik vind hem eigenlijk ook niet leuk, hoor.
Dr. Ramon
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- 30-07-2002 01:47  
Def is wel stoer natuurlijk. Net zoals Def P enzo. Een Fed is natuurlijk zo'n FBI agent, en aangezien je geen Amerikaans staatsburger bent, gaat dat een beetje moeilijk. DFE is ook een beetje moeilijk uit te spreken, behalve als je het als afkorting uitspreekt natuurlijk.

Gelukkig, dan zijn we het daar over eens.
Frode
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- 30-07-2002 21:59  
Def dan maar!
Dr. Ramon
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- 30-07-2002 22:49  
Gewaagd! Fris! Vernieuwend! Stoer!

Enzo. Gefeliciteerd met je nieuwe naam.
Frode
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- 31-07-2002 00:20  
Mijn eerste stap in de wereld van... Eeh, van wat eigenlijk.

Dankjewel, Ron... Of eeeh... Am
Dr. Ramon
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- 31-07-2002 01:24  
Nou, zeg het eens. In wat voor wereld?

Ik hoop toch ten zeerste dat je met 'Ron' niet mij bedoelde! Dat is immers onvergeeflijk.
Georg
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- 31-07-2002 01:41  
Zo'n gore opmerking zal Frode wel niet bedoeld hebben.
Dr. Ramon
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- 31-07-2002 01:48  
Ik hoop het ook niet nee. Gelukkig ben jij het ook met me eens over de aard van een dergelijke opmerking.
Frode
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- 31-07-2002 03:06  
Dat weet ik dus niet.

Ik vertypte me gewoon. Ehehe.
Dr. Ramon
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- 31-07-2002 09:11  
Ehm.... laten we het daar dan maar op houden, in de naam van de lieve vrede. En dan zie ik het voor deze ene keer wel door de vingers.
Frode
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- 31-07-2002 19:29  
Love and Peace, brother!
I throw the ball of Love and Peace to you, now you'll have to throw it back. (Kingdom O' Magic)
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 31-07-2002 19:41  
O nee! KOM! Ahhhhhh!
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- 31-07-2002 20:12  
Wat een saai gesprek
Frode
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- 31-07-2002 20:21  
Lekkere dooddoener, Hilly!
Sascha
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- 31-07-2002 20:24  
Dat vind jij!

Het is erg belangrijk om onderwerpen als deze uitgebreid uit te praten, anders kunnen mensen over 30 jaar nog is in een hoekje terugkruipen omdat deze onderwerpen hier onbespreekbaar kunnen worden gemaakt...

Denk maar aan mij! Als ik niet had kunnen praten over mijn bloedneus, dan had dat bij mij ook een groots trauma achtergelaten! Bovendien zou ik dan altijd bang geweest zijn voor zulke monsters, die dan en slechts dan, volgens mij, weggestopt zijn in kooien ter veiligheid van de mens.
Dr. Ramon
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- 01-08-2002 19:38  
Ehm... ik weet niet goed hoe ik op jullie moet reageren. Uitgaande van een bepaald gesprekspunt, neemt het gesprek plotseling drie verschillende wendingen aan!
Ik denk dat het gewoon het verstandigst is als ik op Sascha reageer, die heeft nog het langste bericht en daar kun je ook het meeste mee.
Wat bedoel je precies met 'in een hoekje terugkruipen' Sascha? Kruipen die mensen terug in een hoekje omdat ze bang zijn om het onderwerp opnieuw te bespreken? Na 30 jaar zou de rest van de DGE'ers toch wel weer vergeten zijn dat het ooit hier is besproken? Of kruipen die mensen terug in een hoekje naar hun computer, om nog eens die goede oude tijden van DGE te laten herleven? Even daarop doorgaand, lijkt het me bijzonder leuk om over 30 jaar dan eens een echte DGE reünie te houden. Kijken waar iedereen dan staat in zijn leven, zien wat er van iedereen terecht is gekomen (of niet).
Verder acht ik de kans dat het onbespreekbaar maken van een bloedneus leidt tot een groots trauma, niet erg groot (sorry Sascha). Mijn broertje en ik hebben al jaren vooral met warmer weer een bloedneus, en daar gaan we het dan echt niet meer over hebben. Al was het maar omdat het zo gewoon was geworden. Ik heb nu in de afgelopen dagen ook wel een paar keer een bloedneus gehad, maar daar ga ik niet echt over praten (met uitzondering van dit bericht dan). Het verveelt ook wel, al die bloedneuzen. Het is gewoon niet echt interessant. Wellicht is dit een té persoonlijke kijk op deze zaak, in dat geval bied ik mijn excuses aan mocht ik jouw gevoelens omtrent dit onderwerp gekwetst hebben.
Verder denk ik niet dat je bang hoeft te zijn voor monsters ofzo. Dat doe je maar als je nog een leeftijd hebt die valt te tellen op de vingers van één of eventueel twee hand(en).
Wel... ik denk niet dat dit berichtje verder ergens over gaat, maar ik vond het toch wel weer eens nodig een wat langer berichtje te typen dan alleen maar met Frode te converseren over allerlei niet erg hoogdravende onderwerpen.
Bjørn
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- 01-08-2002 22:30  
Over 30 jaar een reünie houden Ramon? Goed idee, misschien kunnen we dat dan direct laten samenvallen met het 35ste B&E feest! :-D
Sascha
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- 01-08-2002 22:32  
Nou ik dacht zelf aan angst, maar jij, Ramon, hebt mij, wederom, weer licht laten ervaren op dit gebied. Een reünie is natuurlijk bijzonder leuk, maar voorlopig dreigen we niet uit elkaar te gaan, dus lijkt het mij praktischer het afspreken van een reünie uit te stellen, zodat de kans dat mensen deze afspraak vergeten, zo klein mogelijk gehouden wordt.

Die bloedneuzen zijn absoluut niet leuk, maar, zoals jezelf als zei, zijn zulke ervaringen voor sommige mensen helaas normaal, hetzij dat het vanzelf gaat, hetzij dat ze niet met alcohol om kunnen gaan. Ik hoop niet dat het bij mij normaal wordt, aangezien deze bloedneus mij geslagen is door een kater van twaalf weken oud...

Tot slot kan ik het niet laten te melden dat je op één hand tot 32 kan tellen (2^5). Als je bereidt bent je vingers ook voor de helft omhoog te steken, dan heb je er al 243.
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- 02-08-2002 00:51  
Ik heb toch het gesprek weer aardig op weten te peppen zo te zien!!
Frode
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- 02-08-2002 01:34  
Nee hoor!
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- 02-08-2002 09:34  
Welles na mijn dooddoener zijn er boeiende gesprekken gekomen!
Dr. Ramon
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- 02-08-2002 19:45  
Scylla: Ik denk dat dat eerder ondanks dan dankzij jouw dooddoener is.
Sascha: Goed idee, dat uitstellen van het maken van een afspraak.
De bloedneuzen waar ik het over had waren overigens ook niet extern, doch intern (gesprongen nasaal-epitheliale vascularisatie).
En inderdaad, je kunt op één hand op nog meer manieren tellen. Dank dat je mij hier het licht hebt laten zien! Ik had het gewoon over de manier van het decimale stelsel.
Sascha
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- 03-08-2002 01:56  
Nou decimaal zou je 1 vinger op 10 manieren kunnen positioneren, zonder in de war te raken. Je bedoelde natuurlijk een concatenerend stelsen =D

En dooddoeners helpen sowieso niet. Inderdaad, zonder jouw dooddoener zou het heel anders gelopen zijn, maar dat betekent niet dat het gesprek zonder jouw dooddoener doodgevallen zou zijn. Ach ja, hoe het allemaal geweest zou zijn, zullen we voorlopig wel niet weten...
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- 03-08-2002 09:35  
Precies! Dus jullie mogen NIET uitsluiten dat dit gesprek zonder mijn dooddoener dood was gevallen! Dat voel ik aan mijn water!
Sascha
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- 03-08-2002 11:54  
Uhm... dit gesprek valt sowieso een keer dood, met of zonder dooddoener...

Kennelijk heb ik mijzelf niet duidelijk gemaakt wanneer ik bedoelde te zegen dat het gesprek zonder jouw dooddoener [I]niet meteen[I] doodgevallen zou zijn. Het had misschien maar kort geduurd... En dat gevoel van jou ben ik (zelf) al helemaal zat =D
Laurens
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- 03-08-2002 12:19  
Ron Rulez. punt uit.
Frode
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- 03-08-2002 12:40  
Ron is... Tja... Een vaag persoon. Hij roeleerd zeker niet.
Dr. Ramon
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- 03-08-2002 21:20  
Inderdaad Sascha... ik had het over een concatenerend, decimaal stelsel. Oftewel het stelsel waar zeg maar 90% van de geletterde wereldbevolking normaal mee telt. Overigens wil ik jou wel eens snel op je vingers tot 255 zien tellen.
Gelukkig roeleert Ron inderdaad niet. Dat zou me toch ook wat zijn, zeg.
Sascha
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- 03-08-2002 21:57  
Nou het snelle tellen zal beperkt worden door mijn lage vaardigheid om mijn vingers parallel te besturen, maar het tellen is geen probleem hoor! Ik zal het je met plezier laten zien!
Dr. Ramon
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- 04-08-2002 00:26  
Ik denk dat het nog wel mee zal vallen met die vermeende lage vaardigheid om je vingers parallel te besturen. Door lange ervaring met computer toetsenborden heb je al een goede basis gelegd voor individuele (oog-)vinger coördinatie.
Ik zal met plezier toeschouwer zijn van het dan door jou te vertonen schouwspel! Ik kijk er nu al naar uit.
Sascha
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- 04-08-2002 05:32  
Och heden... Dat betekent zeker dat ik eraan vast zit? Nou ja... Wel zonde trouwes dat je me slechts 8 vingers laat gebruiken, waarbij ik zelfs één stand niet hoef te laten zien! Maar dat was de opdracht, dus zo zal ik deze voltooien!
Dr. Ramon
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- 04-08-2002 11:15  
Oh verrek ja, ik was helemaal in de ban van vingers, en had de duimen niet meegeteld. Dat maakt de zaak wat aardiger natuurlijk, als je je duimen er ook bij gebruikt. In dat geval zal ik je graag vragen tot 1024 te tellen (dus nu ook incl. die ene).
Sascha
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- 04-08-2002 21:44  
Nou ja vooruit... maar dat duur zo lang dat mijn vingers na die tijd goed uitgeput zijn... Mag ik vast wat conditietraining doen?
Dr. Ramon
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- 04-08-2002 21:48  
Tuurlijk! Ga je gang! Maar zoals ik al zei, met die jarenlange ervaring met het toetsenbord zijn je vingers wel wat gewend hoor.
Sascha
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- 04-08-2002 21:57  
Nou op zich zit daar wel waarheid in, maar ik tiepel niet echt met 10 vingers. Zo is het bij mij duidelijk merkbaar dat ik mijn ringvingers eigenlijk totaal niet onder controle heb. Met mijn rechterhand kan ik dat redelijk verbergen, maar mijn linker heeft wel degelijk harde training nodig.

Ik denk dan ook dat jij als pianist beter binair kunt tellen dan ik.
Dr. Ramon
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- 04-08-2002 22:04  
Hmmm... dat zou dan best eens kunnen ja. Wel, dan ga ik ook maar eens oefenen!
Sascha
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- 04-08-2002 22:55  
Dat wordt spannend! Wie van ons kan dan straks beter binair tellen?

Als we samenwerken, kunnen we trouwes tot 1048576 komen! =D
Dr. Ramon
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- 05-08-2002 01:25  
Ik denk dat jij nog altijd beter binair kunt tellen, vanwege je jarenlange ervaring. Ik moet het eigenlijk nog altijd wel uitschrijven. En inderdaad, als we samenwerken kunnen we tot 1048576 komen! (ik moest wel eerst even een programmaatje schrijven om dat te kunnen controleren...dit om maar aan te geven hoe slecht ik wel niet ben in binair tellen). Dit lijkt me echter wel bijzonder complex hoor... ik denk dat ik al genoeg moeite zal hebben met die 1024.
Sascha
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- 05-08-2002 23:40  
Nou eerst zien dan geloven! Volgens mij ben jij hier gewoon heel goed in!
Dr. Ramon
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- 05-08-2002 23:45  
Ehm... laat ik mijzelf dan nog een keer herhalen:
ik denk dat ik al genoeg moeite zal hebben met die 1024
Oftewel: Dat gaat heel lastig worden.
Sascha
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- 06-08-2002 00:37  
Ja ik heb jouw uiting wel gelezen, maar ik geloof m niet. Bovendien suggereert deze uitsrpaak dat je het nog niet geprobeerd hebt, wat op zich al een kwalijke zaak is.
Dr. Ramon
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- 06-08-2002 01:08  
Inderdaad, ik heb het nog niet eens geprobeerd! En dat is een kwalijke zaak inderdaad. Maar ik heb dan ook weinig tot geen ervaring met binair rekenen. Ik zal vannacht als ik niet in slaap kan komen, eens binair gaan tellen.
Sascha
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- 06-08-2002 01:18  
Nou ja ik heb inmiddels vernomen dat je zit te oefenen... Goeie zaak! Ik ben trots op je!
Dr. Ramon
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- 06-08-2002 01:40  
Precies! Dat valt nog niet mee zeg. Ik moet tegelijkertijd weer even herinneren hoe het ook alweer ging, het binair tellen, en dan nog eens mijn vingers zo manipuleren.
Sascha
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- 06-08-2002 01:42  
Jaajaaa smoesjes! 'k Geloof er niks van! Je bent gewoon een getalenteerde teller!
Dr. Ramon
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- 06-08-2002 21:22  
Nou, ik moet zeggen: Na even oefenen met tellen tot en met 31 op één hand gaat het inderdaad steeds makkelijker. Al was het alleen maar omdat ik er een logische volgorde in heb ontdekt, die zich vervolgens als ware het een pianostuk nestelt in het motorische geheugen van mijn vingers.
Georg
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- 06-08-2002 21:57  
Je kunt het ook zo doen dat je steeds maar een vinger hoeft te veranderen:
00000
00001
00011
00010
00110
00111
00101
etc.
Dr. Ramon
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- 06-08-2002 22:00  
De reeks die jij voorstelt, leidt in het decimale stelsel tot de reeks '0-1-3-4-6-7-5'... Ik was meer bezig met de reeks '0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7...' etc.
Sascha
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- 07-08-2002 00:31  
Nee hoor, Georgs reeks klopt wel. Het is alleen wel lastiger om deze methode op je vingers te gebruiken, ondanks dat je minder vingers hoeft te bewegen.

Binair kun je iemand rustig 132 toewensen, maar hoe dat in het... uhm, hoe heette dat ook alweer? symmetrisch binair? Nou ja, in Georgs systeem zou ik niet weten welke decimale waarde daarbij hoort. =D

(en het uitrekenen is mij, uiteraard, teveel werk)
Dr. Ramon
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- 07-08-2002 00:45  
Ja maar... hoe werkt Georgs methode dan? Ik ben geen Informaticus hoor! Noch wiskundige. Dus leg het mij alsjeblieft eens uit. Wat is dat symmetrisch binaire? In mijn simpele binaire systeem laat ik mensen niet graag het decimale getal 4 zien... tenzij ik een hekel aan ze heb.
Sascha
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- 07-08-2002 01:30  
132 is 4 in stereo...

Nou het is gewoon binair tellen, maar dan omgebouwd zodat elke keer maar 1 cijfer verandert.

Probeer het maar eens uit te schrijven, dan gaat het waarschijnlijk vanzelf wel goed.
Dr. Ramon
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- 07-08-2002 01:33  
Dit late uur maakt het er niet echt makkelijker op om deze stof te begrijpen. Morgen zal ik me er nog wel eens over buigen, kijken of het dan duidelijker wordt.
Sascha
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- 07-08-2002 01:34  
Het is al morgen =P
Georg
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- 07-08-2002 01:50  
Ik zal het even toelichten. Begin met:
00000
00001
Zet vervolgens de een na laatste bit op 1 en tel terug:
00011
00010
Zet vervolgens de twee na laatste bit op 1 en tel terug:
00110
00111
00101
00100
Zet vervolgens de drie na laatste bit op 1 en tel terug:
01100
01101
01111
01110
01010
01011
01001
01000
Zet vervolgens... etc. Ik denk dat het wel duidelijk is dat er zo steeds 1 bit verandert. Deze techniek wordt wel gebruikt bij sommige metingen, zodat als de meter een bit verkeerd leest, dat de gemeten waarde maar 1 verschilt van de werkelijke waarde. Het verschil tussen 00000 en 10000 is nl. heel groot, terwijl er toch maar 1 bit anders staat.
Dr. Ramon
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- 08-08-2002 13:46  
Dit is wel een slimme manier om meetfouten, te wijten aan falende elektronica, zoveel mogelijk te omzeilen. Voor het binair tellen op vingers ga ik echter liever toch voor de simpele methode van het binair tellen zoals mijn computer dat ook doet.
Laurens
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- 08-08-2002 20:06  
Zoals de computer het doet? Met microschakelingen, registers, condensators en electronen? Petje af Ramon, dat vind ik knap.
Georg
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- 08-08-2002 20:18  
Tja, ik dacht ik draag het aan omdat het qua motoriek waarschijnlijk makkelijker is.
Dr. Ramon
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- 08-08-2002 20:22  
Nee Laurens, dat bedoelde ik niet. Ik bedoelde... ach, ik ga er ook niet eens meer op in.

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zucht
Laurens
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- 09-08-2002 10:51  
Nou je ging er wel op in...

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heh heh heh
Dr. Ramon
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- 09-08-2002 10:58  
Whatever

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nogmaals: zucht
Laurens
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- 09-08-2002 10:59  
Hap hap hap

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nogmaals: heh heh heh
Frode
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- 09-08-2002 23:13  
KzK!!!

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\(_/ /
...L........
Dr. Ramon
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- 10-08-2002 00:20  
Hahaha!

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goeie; mooi dat die ASCII art hier ook werkt
Laurens
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- 10-08-2002 10:24  
Ik zie alleen niets in die ASCII art?
Dr. Ramon
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- 10-08-2002 11:20  
Dan moet je toch nog eens beter kijken. Je kunt er toch duidelijk een KzK in zien!
No name
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- 10-08-2002 12:39  
Hahaha mooi ding!
Laurens
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- 10-08-2002 15:34  
Ik zie er niets in.
Sascha
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- 11-08-2002 19:45  
Hahahaha!!!

Misschien een beetje late reactie mijnerzijds, maar deze is wel errug goed!
Georg
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- 11-08-2002 20:49  
Hahaha, inderdaad erg grappig.
Frode
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- 11-08-2002 22:14  
Ik doe ook eens wat, hoor. Bedankt voor jullie reacties. :|)
Laurens
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- 11-08-2002 22:25  
Verrek nu zie ik het pas!

Haha!

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Beter laat dan nooit.
No name
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- 11-08-2002 23:27  
In jouw geval beter nooit dan laat.
Bjørn
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- 12-08-2002 00:07  
Mooi gemaakt hoor, ik zag hem eerst niet omdat ik dacht dat het een soort mislukt cocktailglas was. Maar hij ziet er als kip zonder kop toch veel leuker uit!
Dr. Ramon
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- 12-08-2002 01:09  
Ah, Laurens heeft hem ook door! Eindelijk!
Bjørn, hoe kun je in hemelsnaam daarin nu ooit een soort mislukt cocktailglas zien?! Je fantasie heeft zeker een loopje met je genomen...
Laurens
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- 12-08-2002 10:35  
Bjorn heeft inderdaad soms een beetje rare fantasien. Was dit weer een van je "beestachtige gedachten"?

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Nee Bjorn, die uitspraak vergeten we nooit! Heh heh heh
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- 12-08-2002 11:08  
Nou, een mislukt cocktailglas is toch juist niet een 'beestachtige gedachte' ?

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Welke uitspraak?
Laurens
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- 12-08-2002 13:52  
Nou je weet het nooit bij die jongen.

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Nee, dat zal ik niet hier vertellen. :-) Vraag het Edwin of Georg maar, maar ik doe mijn mond niet open.
Dr. Ramon
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- 12-08-2002 15:52  
Aaaah, toe nou! Kom op zeg. Georg, wat was dat met een uitspraak van Bjørn?
Laurens
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- 12-08-2002 15:56  
Ik denk dat je meer geluk zou hebben bij Edwin.
Dr. Ramon
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- 12-08-2002 16:01  
Nou, okee. Edwin, wat was dat met die uitspraak van Bjørn? Of moeten we eerst wachten tot je klaar bent met werken? Oh, het is 16:00! Dan moet je klaar zijn met werken, als het goed is. Toch?
Laurens
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- 12-08-2002 16:18  
Ik hoop het voor hem.

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Dr. Ramon
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- 12-08-2002 16:21  
Ach nou ja... laten we het ook eens over Edwin hebben.
Laurens
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- 12-08-2002 16:33  
Ja! Vertel zijn route naar de "WC" eens?
Dr. Ramon
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- 12-08-2002 16:38  
Dat weet ik ook niet. Overigens was jij zo'n beetje de enige die het als WC gebruikte, geloof ik. Wacht even... je bedoelt toch niet dat Edwin in jouw.... ah bah, gatverdamme zeg!
Laurens
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- 12-08-2002 16:54  
Wacht even... je bedoelt toch niet dat Edwin in jouw.... ah bah, gatverdamme zeg!
Wat? Nu heb ik serieus geen idee waar jij het nu over hebt!

ik bedoel gewoon Edwin's "laatste" route naar de WC. Zo achter dat schuurtje langs, en dan helemaal het bos in, om uiteindelijk te belanden in de sloot ofzo. jij wist daar toch meer van?
Dr. Ramon
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- 12-08-2002 17:08  
Ik wist niet waar Edwin precies was, en waar hij langs was gelopen, of gestommeld. Frode had Edwin juist gevonden.

Ik bedoelde, dat Edwin dan op de grond was gaan liggen waar jij je behoefte had gedaan.
Georg
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- 12-08-2002 20:19  
Eh Ramon, volgens mij is het gadverdamme i.p.v. gatverdamme. Het is namelijk een verbastering van godverdomme. Als jij het niet gezegd had had ik het nooit verbeterd. Ik heb altijd al de stille droom gehad om van jou een spelfout te mogen verbeteren. :-)
Laurens
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- 12-08-2002 20:44  
AAAAH NEEE!!!!! Altijd die spelfouten! aaaarg

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Dr. Ramon
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- 12-08-2002 20:47  
Inderdaad is gadverdamme een verbastering van godverdomme, maar gatverdamme is weer een verbastering van gadverdamme. De afgeleide vormen 'gadver' en 'gatver' komen ook vaak voor. Dit alles in het kader van de natuurlijke evolutie van taal. Het was dus zeker geen (onbewuste) spelfout, doch een weloverwogen poging tot vernieuwing en 'hipheid' van de door mij geuite termen. Overigens had je bij andere berichten wel een spelfout eruit kunnen halen.
Laurens
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- 12-08-2002 20:51  
Waarom ben je geen Nederlands gaan studeren Ramon? je blijkt er veel verstand van te hebben, of in ieder geval doe je als of je er verstand van hebt, OF je zit je onbewust veel te veel te vermoeien met die onbelangrijke dingen.
Georg
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- 12-08-2002 21:04  
Heh, jammer. Ik had nog wel voor de zekerheid in mijn Wolters' Ster Woordenboek beide woorden opgezocht en kwam daar alleen maar gadverdamme tegen. Je hebt hoogstwaarschijnlijk gelijk.
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- 12-08-2002 21:07  
Ik denk dat ik het op dat laatste punt houd... :-S
Ik doe niet alsof ik er veel verstand van heb, ik heb er namelijk niet veel verstand van. Ik zeg alleen wat dingen die iedereen met een beetje algemene kennis kan weten. Alleen lijkt de kennis van sommige personen het een beetje af te laten weten, zodat het lijkt alsof ik veel meer verstand heb van bepaalde dingen, of in ieder geval dat ik doe alsof, ofzo.
Intussen is het wel vermoeiend inderdaad, maar DGE verdient duidelijkheid.
Ikwileennieuwenaam
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- 13-08-2002 19:54  
Ik doe liever geen uitspraken over de 'beestachtige gedachten' van Bjørn, tenzij hij me daar uitdrukkelijke toestemming voor geeft.
Bjørn
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- 13-08-2002 20:16  
Wie wil er nou in hemelsnaam praten over z'n eigen beestachtige gedachten? Het probleem met beestachtige gedachten is dat je ze eigenlijk pas bedenkt op het moment dat je gaat nadenken over wat beestachtige gedachten eigenlijk zijn. Zodra je daar dus over hebt nagedacht heb je dus beestachtige gedachten en die zou je dan aan anderen kunnen vertellen. Het zijn echter wel beestachtige gedachten, dus die wil je helemaal niet aan andere vertellen!
Dr. Ramon
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- 13-08-2002 20:25  
In een privé-gesprek met Bjørn en Edwin op een u allen welbekend communicatiekanaal dat door 's werelds grootste software bedrijf wordt geleverd, is mij een exclusieve blik op de gebeurtenissen in het verleden gegund, die aanleiding hebben gegeven tot de recente uitingen die Bjørn in een niet al te positief daglicht zouden stellen. Welnu, zonder in details te treden, kan ik de rest van de mede-onwetende DGE'ers mededelen dat
a) het allemaal wel meeviel
b) de term 'beestachtig' wellicht niet eens door Bjørn zelf, maar door anderen (Edwin, Jos, ...?) zou zijn bedacht
c) de consequenties van dit 'beestachtig' ook door deze anderen verder zouden zijn uitgewerkt

Dit alles vernomen hebbend, meen ik dat een kleine rectificatie van de beschuldigingen jegens Bjørn wel op zijn plaats is.
Bjørn
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- 13-08-2002 20:33  
Oei, ik had niet eens door dat ik beschuldigd werd...
Dr. Ramon
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- 13-08-2002 20:35  
Nou ja, beschuldigingen is wellicht ook een wat te sterk woord. Desalniettemin werd gepoogd jou in een kwaad daglicht te stellen, een actie die ook door beschuldigingen vaak bewerkstelligd wordt.
Laurens
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- 19-08-2002 22:53  
Maar nu heb is er nog steeds niet verteld wat ik bedoelde met "de beestachtige gedachtes" van Bjorn.
Dr. Ramon
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- 19-08-2002 22:55  
Verdere uitwerking was ook niet nodig.
Laurens
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- 20-08-2002 15:07  
Ok, dan zal ik er over ophouden.
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